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| The coming Palm OS I came across this article about a month ago. Since it hasn't appeared here I thought it worth sharing. Everything about this new OS sounds promising if your a fan of the Palm OS. One thing I feel is for certain. With Microsoft and Apple both getting ready to come to market their own phones, WM05 devices being made by multiple companies, BlackBerry solid as a corporate mobile solution, and Nokia/Sybian doing their thing all across Europe, This could be an uphill battle for Palm . . . . From Brighthand:
PalmSource held a one-day mini-conference for developers last week, giving the world its best look so far at how work is progressing on the replacement for the Palm OS.
David Beers from Pikesoft Mobile Computing was there and filed a report with Palm Infocenter.
According to Mr. Beers, PalmSource's new operating system, code-named Access Linux Platform (ALP), is on schedule for delivery to licensees by the end of this year. Many people are hoping that new devices running this OS will debut next spring.
With this deadline still so far away, there is still a great deal of work to be done, but much of this seems to be on some of the applications that will be bundled with ALP. Work on the operating system itself appears to be mostly finished. Multitasking
One of the most important features in ALP is support for multi-tasking, so it isn't surprising that Mr. Beers devotes a significant amount of time to it in his report.
Devices running this operating system will be able to run multiple applications simultaneously, but they will not do so by default. PalmSource has decided to let developers decide whether their applications should be able to run in the background or operate as Palm OS ones do now: quit when a new application launches.
Background applications will still have access to the screen. While testing a demo device, Mr. Beers was able to bring up the control panel for an audio player while running another application in the foreground. New Resolutions
Mr. Beers reports being told by PalmSource that the devices ALP is primarily targeting will include a QVGA touchscreen and numberpad, and there were numerous Haier N60 flip-phones with this configuration demonstrating it at the mini-conference.
Older Palm OS applications designed to run on 320-by-320-pixel displays are scaled down on lower-resolution screens.
QVGA won't be the only option for licensees, though. There were also demonstration machines showing ALP running on a simulated device with a VGA display and a keyboard. Backward Compatibility
If the replacement for the Palm OS is going to be successful, the ability to run applications written for the current operating system is an absolute necessity.
According to Mr. Beers, ALP offers excellent backward compatibility. "The applications I brought for testing as well as those of the two other Palm developers I spoke with ran perfectly in the emulator."
Mr. Beers' full report can be found on Palm Infocenter. More About ALP
In order to keep it competitive, PalmSource is making some very significant changes to its operating system for handhelds and smartphones.
The most obvious of these is the name. Last year, PalmSource sold all rights to the brand name "Palm" to Palm, Inc. so the next version of its operating system won't use that word. Currently, it is code-named ALP (Access Linux Platform). At some point, PalmSource itself will also get a name change.
A less obvious but just as important change is happening at the roots of this operating system. As its name suggests, this will be the first Linux-based version of this OS.
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| Interesting reading. I wonder if it's a day late and a dollar short, though....
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Originally Posted by Stillrockin I came across this article about a month ago. Since it hasn't appeared here I thought it worth sharing. Everything about this new OS sounds promising if your a fan of the Palm OS. One thing I feel is for certain. With Microsoft and Apple both getting ready to come to market their own phones, WM05 devices being made by multiple companies, BlackBerry solid as a corporate mobile solution, and Nokia/Sybian doing their thing all across Europe, This could be an uphill battle for Palm . . . . From Brighthand:
PalmSource held a one-day mini-conference for developers last week, giving the world its best look so far at how work is progressing on the replacement for the Palm OS.
David Beers from Pikesoft Mobile Computing was there and filed a report with Palm Infocenter.
According to Mr. Beers, PalmSource's new operating system, code-named Access Linux Platform (ALP), is on schedule for delivery to licensees by the end of this year. Many people are hoping that new devices running this OS will debut next spring.
With this deadline still so far away, there is still a great deal of work to be done, but much of this seems to be on some of the applications that will be bundled with ALP. Work on the operating system itself appears to be mostly finished. Multitasking
One of the most important features in ALP is support for multi-tasking, so it isn't surprising that Mr. Beers devotes a significant amount of time to it in his report.
Devices running this operating system will be able to run multiple applications simultaneously, but they will not do so by default. PalmSource has decided to let developers decide whether their applications should be able to run in the background or operate as Palm OS ones do now: quit when a new application launches.
Background applications will still have access to the screen. While testing a demo device, Mr. Beers was able to bring up the control panel for an audio player while running another application in the foreground. New Resolutions
Mr. Beers reports being told by PalmSource that the devices ALP is primarily targeting will include a QVGA touchscreen and numberpad, and there were numerous Haier N60 flip-phones with this configuration demonstrating it at the mini-conference.
Older Palm OS applications designed to run on 320-by-320-pixel displays are scaled down on lower-resolution screens.
QVGA won't be the only option for licensees, though. There were also demonstration machines showing ALP running on a simulated device with a VGA display and a keyboard. Backward Compatibility
If the replacement for the Palm OS is going to be successful, the ability to run applications written for the current operating system is an absolute necessity.
According to Mr. Beers, ALP offers excellent backward compatibility. "The applications I brought for testing as well as those of the two other Palm developers I spoke with ran perfectly in the emulator."
Mr. Beers' full report can be found on Palm Infocenter. More About ALP
In order to keep it competitive, PalmSource is making some very significant changes to its operating system for handhelds and smartphones.
The most obvious of these is the name. Last year, PalmSource sold all rights to the brand name "Palm" to Palm, Inc. so the next version of its operating system won't use that word. Currently, it is code-named ALP (Access Linux Platform). At some point, PalmSource itself will also get a name change.
A less obvious but just as important change is happening at the roots of this operating system. As its name suggests, this will be the first Linux-based version of this OS. |
Really dumb question, but I wonder if they will allow for upgrades for the 680 and other newer POS devices (700p, etc...) vs having to buy a brand new device...
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Originally Posted by sigmamason Really dumb question, but I wonder if they will allow for upgrades for the 680 and other newer POS devices (700p, etc...) vs having to buy a brand new device... | Given the history of the smart phone market, the only updates ever given are firmware. I would say, plan on a new device . . .
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Originally Posted by Stillrockin Given the history of the smart phone market, the only updates ever given are firmware. I would say, plan on a new device . . . |
I guess that is what I meant - new firmware...but given what I know...seems like the software (firmware) will not be compatible....
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| I think we are saying the same thing, just using different terms . . I don't expect your 680 to be capable of accepting a new Palm OS. Upgrades to OS 5 are possible. Upgrades to a totally new OS to this point haven't been . . .
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| Any palm phones with wifi out there yet?
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| nope, at least not GSM. have to do some serious hacking...
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| What does it mean that it wont be call Palm, it would be sell as OS like Windows Mobile?
Like we can have a Samsun Black Jack with the next version of what is called today Palm OS? |
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Originally Posted by jtcr17 What does it mean that it wont be call Palm, it would be sell as OS like Windows Mobile? | The next-gen OS will likely be Linux, with Palm OS emulation for backwards-compatibility.
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