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Old 12-06-2006, 08:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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On the 650 all you did was click blazer and disconnect, however on the 680, im completely stumped. How in the devil do you disconnect from the web???
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Old 12-07-2006, 03:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I think you go in under prefs and to network then disconnect.
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Why did they hamper the interface? My 600 had the Disconnect selection right in the web browser. Now with the 680, it's Home > Prefs > Network > Disconnect.

Two steps forward and one step back for Palm...
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Thats allot of work just to disconnect from the net,

Somebody needs to make a quick key to disconnect quickly.
Here you go i've been using it the past week and have had no problems
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Here you go i've been using it the past week and have had no problems
That's cool, but I think the message here is that functionality has been taken away in what's supposed to be an upgraded device.

It's one thing to make shortcuts available to address an inherently inefficient design. However, when it was right to begin with and then subsequentlly hampered for whatever reason, it makes you wonder whether UI engineers were behind this move or the marketing department?

Let me take a stab...

Marketing wanted to be able to sell providers the possibility that with the Disconnect feature buried elsewhere, users are more likely to leave their connections on, which means more money to providers in the form of connect rates and downloads.

Heck, I know it's cynical, but if you're a corporation what's the only thing that matters most? Your survival, which is dependent on money and returns to your shareholders. Everything else is subordinant, and helps achieve that goal.

The other explanation is that the 600 didn't have Blazer as its browser, and Blazer maybe had the Disconnect function absent all along. Can someone confirm, or is this new missing Disconnect menu item a new missing feature in the 680 version of Blazer?

And maybe, just maybe, the UI engineers at Palm had a bad day, and someone with a forceful argument won the "April 12, 2006, 3 p.m. TREO 680 INTERFACE meeting in the 3COM MEMORIAL CONFERENCE ROOM" at Palm HQ.

Heck, if I wanted shortcuts to fix an issue, I'd have a shortcut that boots up Windows Mobile 5.0 on my Palm device!

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That's cool, but I think the message here is that functionality has been taken away in what's supposed to be an upgraded device.

It's one thing to make shortcuts available to address an inherently inefficient design. However, when it was right to begin with and then subsequentlly hampered for whatever reason, it makes you wonder whether UI engineers were behind this move or the marketing department?

Let me take a stab...

Marketing wanted to be able to sell providers the possibility that with the Disconnect feature buried elsewhere, users are more likely to leave their connections on, which means more money to providers in the form of connect rates and downloads.

Heck, I know it's cynical, but if you're a corporation what's the only thing that matters most? Your survival, which is dependent on money and returns to your shareholders. Everything else is subordinant, and helps achieve that goal.

The other explanation is that the 600 didn't have Blazer as its browser, and Blazer maybe had the Disconnect function absent all along. Can someone confirm, or is this new missing Disconnect menu item a new missing feature in the 680 version of Blazer?

And maybe, just maybe, the UI engineers at Palm had a bad day, and someone with a forceful argument won the "April 12, 2006, 3 p.m. TREO 680 INTERFACE meeting in the 3COM MEMORIAL CONFERENCE ROOM" at Palm HQ.

Heck, if I wanted shortcuts to fix an issue, I'd have a shortcut that boots up Windows Mobile 5.0 on my Palm device!
dude, calm down . I'm new to the treo the 680 is my first but the program i posted was for the treo 650 part of Tools for Treo 2.1 found it on Palm Gear; so I'm guessing that the 650 was missing the disconnect function as well.

Don't stomp on someone trying to help out because you're frustrated with palm os. bye the way if you want windows mobile on your treo get the 750v it's on ebay that way you'll be happy
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dude, calm down . I'm new to the treo the 680 is my first but the program i posted was for the treo 650 part of Tools for Treo 2.1 found it on Palm Gear; so I'm guessing that the 650 was missing the disconnect function as well.

Don't stomp on someone trying to help out because you're frustrated with palm os. bye the way if you want windows mobile on your treo get the 750v it's on ebay that way you'll be happy
Oh no, I wasn't stomping on you. Sorry if it came across that way. I was just mad that we, in general as a user group, shouldn't have to rely on such shortcuts when the OS was good to begin with. Since you're new to the Palm with the 680, you didn't have that feature taken away from you, which is where I was going.

On the 600, the Disconnect was right there...now on the 680 it's gone. But your app is great, and much appreciated. I was 100% dumping on Palm, but using the app you generously provided as a symbol of what we have to do to oversome Palm's shortcomings, which is made the more apparent when they had it 'right' in the first place.

Now, I also notice that the Floating Appointment feature is gone in Calendar...see what I mean!? The 600 had it, the 680 doesn't...unless, like Disconnect, they made it "better" by burying it 17 menus deep!
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Oh no, I wasn't stomping on you. Sorry if it came across that way. I was just mad that we, in general as a user group, shouldn't have to rely on such shortcuts when the OS was good to begin with. Since you're new to the Palm with the 680, you didn't have that feature taken away from you, which is where I was going.

On the 600, the Disconnect was right there...now on the 680 it's gone. But your app is great, and much appreciated. I was 100% dumping on Palm, but using the app you generously provided as a symbol of what we have to do to oversome Palm's shortcomings, which is made the more apparent when they had it 'right' in the first place.

Now, I also notice that the Floating Appointment feature is gone in Calendar...see what I mean!? The 600 had it, the 680 doesn't...unless, like Disconnect, they made it "better" by burying it 17 menus deep!
cool, sorry for the misunderstanding
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When I go to Preferences I don't see any "Network > Disconnect", I see Page, General, and Advanced tabs. None of which have anything about network or disconnect in them. Am I missing something?

I've got Palm Blazer v4.5 on my new Arctic Treo
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When I go to Preferences I don't see any "Network > Disconnect", I see Page, General, and Advanced tabs. None of which have anything about network or disconnect in them. Am I missing something?

I've got Palm Blazer v4.5 on my new Arctic Treo
Go to Prefs > Network. At the bottom you should see Done, Detail, Connect/Disconnect (depending on you status)
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